she needs to be someplace where people can help her
I don't know what to do!
Would it be possible to talk to her doctor today?
or do you think it would be useful to talk to a social worker at the hospital?
I don't know how these thigns work 0=-
just wondering where to find expertise
I'm afraid that there is nothing between calling her doctor to make an appointment and calling 911 to be transported to the ER.
If we call her PCP's office, at best we'll talk to a nurse.
you know maybe 911 is the way to go
this is really serious
it is not a good option for your dad to lift her and carry her
if she cannot move at all because of an injury
she should be in rehab
I vote for the ER
and you know I don't treat the ER lightly
We already called 911 and she is on her way to the ER. There was no alternative.
My dad talked to a nurse they know and she confirmed that.
The paramedics were very gentle.
I will head over to the hospital soon.
Yeah I don't know what else you could have done
and frankly I am pissed at your dad for not doing this over the weekend
Your poor mom
she does not deserve this
I am at the ER with her now. She has a room and we are waiting for the doctor. She has an IV and seems more comfortable.
your poor mom
this whole thing - I am so sad for her
but glad you are there
and making rational decisions
and making things better for her
With this new knee problem, I'm afraid that she may not walk again.
she is lucky to have you
that would be awful if she does not walk again
The ER doctor (a young woman) is very nice and seems genuinely concerned about her. She immediately suspected a possible broken hip or pelvis after a quick exam. We're waiting for pain meds, and then they will take some X-rays.
The doctor seemed very unhappy after learning that (1) only the knee was X-rayed last week and (2) they sent her home right away after that..
a broken hip?
this keeps getting worse
and yes, it sounds like the ER did not do it right last week
that didn't even occur to me
but then, I am not a doctor
it should have occurred to the ER people
A broken hip would make sense. She was in far worse shape than I expected (thinking that it was just a knee problem).
yeah, it all makes a lot more sense now
but a broken hip is really bad
especially with your mom's general health
Now I'm cranky and worried.
And I'm probably going to end up with your cold.
I didn't do it right by staying up all night.
I am sorry, sweetie
is she at least feeling better?
Well, she just got morphine, so she will be.
she has suffered too much already
this is so grossly unfair
I just cannot stand it
It's really not fair.
They should be taking her for X-rays soon. (The pain medication needed to come first.)
It is making me sick thinking of your mother there with a broken hip
yes pain meds come first
And Jack didn't even think that perhaps she needed medical attention?
(I am at the 'assigning blame' stage)
Jack only came by a couple of times (once with Pia) while she was sitting in the chair in the living room. He knew things were bad, but he didn't know how bad.
We are waiting for the X-ray results now. She had some morphine before the X-rays, but it has already worn off.
I hope they will give her more morphine
They won't do anything else (including giving her some nutrition through the IV) yet.
weird that it has worn off already
it takes forever for vicodin to wear off for me
I feel crummy for hours!
(how were the sandwiches last night?)
(and is your father expressing any remorse?)
Well, it's worn off at least to some extent.
people experience it differently
and of course just because it affects me one way does not mean it will affect your mom the same way
I didn't eat any sandwiches last night, but I brought one here and just ate it.
Jack had brought some Greek food, so I finished that last night.
I am glad you thought to bring lunch with you
He has been caring for her full-time since Friday, but I don't know whether he sees all of this as "his fault."
They must have given her very little morphine. I don't think you or I can even understand her level of pain.
I've got news for you: I'm cranky.
no I don't think so
and that is why I am so horrified that she was with that pain
and your dad did nothing
You should be cranky
this is so much worse than we imagined
I think last Friday was the inflection point that I've been worried about. I think the two of them will never again live without help in that house.
I don't think so either
I did just a quick look about broken hips
And I don't think they will be moving into the "independent living" section of any retirement community.
your mom might need to be in rehab for weeks
And she has no strength.
Maybe a residential rehab facility is what she needs.
based on my very limited knowledge
that is what she needs
she needs to heal
and in a place where they know how to take care of her
The doctor could not see any fractures on the pelvic X-rays (and she reviewed the knee X-ray from last week). So now they've taken my mom for a CT scan.
Even if no breaks or other serious physical problems are found, she'll be admitted because of dehydration. They had to use a catheter to get some urine, and her PCP will put in the order to admit her.
Things move very slowly in the ER for someone whose condition is not really an emergency.
OK. She for sure has not been eating properly
There's no good audience for my whining here.
I am sorry
What a crummy situation
I am boiling mad at your father
I am guessing there has been no discussion of next steps with your dad
I talked to him for a short time last night.
I think he knows that they need to move into assisted living.
And I said that they need someone helping here, even if it's not Debbie.
Two weeks before our wedding, my husband's parents called to tell him 1. they weren't coming and 2. he shouldn't marry me. Since then, I have gotten along with them about as well as you might think. PS They died hating me and disinherited my husband. PPS None of this is made up. None of it.